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		<title>By: Phil Barker</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one that I created that I created using the extract links option, mentioned in my previous comment, worked once or twice and then stopped working. Looking at the advanced tab, it&#039;s equivalent to using the CSE REST interface to make an annotation file, which I had problems with originally. When I look at the output of that interface, where I would expect a list of URLs based on my del.icio.us bookmarks, what I actually get is a set of URLs for Yahoos terms and conditions (Yahoo own del.icio.us).  I have managed to fiddle with the options for what del.icio.us page I  extract URLs from and get it working briefly, but pretty soon the Yahoo Ts&amp;Cs come back. It&#039;s almost like Yahoo doesn&#039;t want to play nicely with Google. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one that I created that I created using the extract links option, mentioned in my previous comment, worked once or twice and then stopped working. Looking at the advanced tab, it&#8217;s equivalent to using the CSE REST interface to make an annotation file, which I had problems with originally. When I look at the output of that interface, where I would expect a list of URLs based on my del.icio.us bookmarks, what I actually get is a set of URLs for Yahoos terms and conditions (Yahoo own del.icio.us).  I have managed to fiddle with the options for what del.icio.us page I  extract URLs from and get it working briefly, but pretty soon the Yahoo Ts&amp;Cs come back. It&#8217;s almost like Yahoo doesn&#8217;t want to play nicely with Google. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jermallie</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>jermallie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Phil

we did use that way in scoofers, www.scoofers.com. we use del.icio.us, stumbleupon etc. and filled it now with app 5000 extract links times 10 on avarage links on 1 extraxted links site, so app. 50000 site have been labelled now, using social bookmark sites. But we are also looking at using the API&#039;s

regards, Jeroen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Phil</p>
<p>we did use that way in scoofers, <a href="http://www.scoofers.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.scoofers.com</a>. we use del.icio.us, stumbleupon etc. and filled it now with app 5000 extract links times 10 on avarage links on 1 extraxted links site, so app. 50000 site have been labelled now, using social bookmark sites. But we are also looking at using the API&#8217;s</p>
<p>regards, Jeroen</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Barker</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeroen, Short answer: because I hadn&#039;t seen that option. :-} Yes, I think that would work if you weren&#039;t generating the CSE on the fly (which, once I started doing I kind of found to be useful), also if you didn&#039;t mind searching the links on that page that weren&#039;t bookmarks (which I guess would not be a problem if you added del.icio.us to the list of sites not to search?). If I get the chance I&#039;ll check it out--it would be better for people who don&#039;t want to / can&#039;t get involved with any scripting. Thanks.
edit: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010657885947752667116:ietyyjp7onc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s one&lt;/a&gt; that works like that. [Later: well it did work]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeroen, Short answer: because I hadn&#8217;t seen that option. :-} Yes, I think that would work if you weren&#8217;t generating the CSE on the fly (which, once I started doing I kind of found to be useful), also if you didn&#8217;t mind searching the links on that page that weren&#8217;t bookmarks (which I guess would not be a problem if you added del.icio.us to the list of sites not to search?). If I get the chance I&#8217;ll check it out&#8211;it would be better for people who don&#8217;t want to / can&#8217;t get involved with any scripting. Thanks.<br />
edit: <a href="http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=010657885947752667116:ietyyjp7onc" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s one</a> that works like that. [Later: well it did work]</p>
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		<title>By: jermallie</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>jermallie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why don&#039;t you just u the &quot; extract links option&quot; in the sites tab of the cse and use the url that displays 100 bookmarks and add the other url&#039;s that diplays the next 100 etc.

regards,jeroen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why don&#8217;t you just u the &#8221; extract links option&#8221; in the sites tab of the cse and use the url that displays 100 bookmarks and add the other url&#8217;s that diplays the next 100 etc.</p>
<p>regards,jeroen</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Barker</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a play with the API as a way round the limit on the number of entries in the RSS feed, but I don&#039;t want to have to ask for a password every time I update the search engine and i don&#039;t want to leave it lying around in a text file somewhere. Besides, I&#039;ld be limited to my own tags. The best option seems to be the &lt;a href=&quot;http://del.icio.us/help/json/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;JSON feed&lt;/a&gt;, which will give up to 100 posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a play with the API as a way round the limit on the number of entries in the RSS feed, but I don&#8217;t want to have to ask for a password every time I update the search engine and i don&#8217;t want to leave it lying around in a text file somewhere. Besides, I&#8217;ld be limited to my own tags. The best option seems to be the <a href="http://del.icio.us/help/json/" rel="nofollow">JSON feed</a>, which will give up to 100 posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Barker</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Barker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tony, that&#039;s very useful. 
On the point of whether the search is limited to the exact page or the whole domain (there&#039;s a third option: everything in directories below where the bookmarked page is) the Perl script has options to modify the links in the RSS feed for each of these--I think, I&#039;ve only tested the third option, which is the one I&#039;m using. So if I bookmark http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mechanical-Engineering/ I search everything in in that subdirectory and below it, which is all the OCW Mechanical-Engineering resources. It&#039;s nice of MIT to arrange their courses like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tony, that&#8217;s very useful.<br />
On the point of whether the search is limited to the exact page or the whole domain (there&#8217;s a third option: everything in directories below where the bookmarked page is) the Perl script has options to modify the links in the RSS feed for each of these&#8211;I think, I&#8217;ve only tested the third option, which is the one I&#8217;m using. So if I bookmark <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mechanical-Engineering/" rel="nofollow">http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mechanical-Engineering/</a> I search everything in in that subdirectory and below it, which is all the OCW Mechanical-Engineering resources. It&#8217;s nice of MIT to arrange their courses like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One issue with taking the RSS feed from delicious is that if you have a lot of links tagged a particular way, they won&#039;t all appear in the RSS feed... which is why you need a password and the delicious api...

I&#039;m not  sure if the Google CSE can be used to scrape links from a delicious page (eg set to display 100 links?)

There are also a couple of things to bear in mind when searching over links - do you want to search just the bookmarked pages, or are you happy to search over the whole domain that the bookmarkd page sits on? I explored several variations on this theme under the notion of &#039;search hubs&#039; ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010686.html ). My demonstrator site for this (in desperate need of a rewrite) is searchfeedr ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010000.html )

If you&#039;re happy with only searching over a couple of dozen links at a time, this delisearch pipe should work: http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009301.html

I thought I&#039;d done a demo of how to use this pipe in a grazr widget that let you select a delicious user name and tag ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010044.html ) but it looks as if i only ever did a cut&#039;n&#039;paste OPML generator ( http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/deli2opml2.html  - the delicous search pipe code is at the bottom of the generated OPML)

tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One issue with taking the RSS feed from delicious is that if you have a lot of links tagged a particular way, they won&#8217;t all appear in the RSS feed&#8230; which is why you need a password and the delicious api&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not  sure if the Google CSE can be used to scrape links from a delicious page (eg set to display 100 links?)</p>
<p>There are also a couple of things to bear in mind when searching over links &#8211; do you want to search just the bookmarked pages, or are you happy to search over the whole domain that the bookmarkd page sits on? I explored several variations on this theme under the notion of &#8217;search hubs&#8217; ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010686.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010686.html</a> ). My demonstrator site for this (in desperate need of a rewrite) is searchfeedr ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010000.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010000.html</a> )</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re happy with only searching over a couple of dozen links at a time, this delisearch pipe should work: <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009301.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/009301.html</a></p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d done a demo of how to use this pipe in a grazr widget that let you select a delicious user name and tag ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010044.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/010044.html</a> ) but it looks as if i only ever did a cut&#8217;n'paste OPML generator ( <a href="http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/deli2opml2.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.open.ac.uk/Maths/ajh59/deli2opml2.html</a>  &#8211; the delicous search pipe code is at the bottom of the generated OPML)</p>
<p>tony</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Poulter</title>
		<link>http://ancientgeeks.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/delicious-driven-google-custom-search/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Poulter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for slogging through all that adversity so we don&#039;t have to, Phil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for slogging through all that adversity so we don&#8217;t have to, Phil.</p>
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